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Malcorath Sacerdos Rogue Meddlers 41	Posted - 2017.02.01 11:04:40 - [1] - Quote Akaro Tripar wrote: The real problem here is that something like code is still possible.... Gankers of any kind should face 500k damage at the second of the first shot in high and their and their possible preys wrecks should set "out of buisness" for anyone except the prey.....the prey may freely took what he wants as compensation....but touch them(with an alt as it is done now) as not involved or the criminal himself and also face 500k damage...and on and on and on...as long as they get it....could take a while 'til they get the message i guess.... not that i particularly like suiside gankers... but i really hate trammelised games... a healthy sandbox mmo needs its PK-¦s and dewds if you dont like this play style and want 100% safety why seek out life in New eden?
Malcorath Sacerdos Rogue Meddlers 41	Posted - 2017.02.01 11:36:08 - [2] - Quote Akaro Tripar wrote: I don't care about those tiny Explantions "why ganking is good for the game"..... I've heard them all and i give a dam..... PVP ist still possible if you have to ACCEPT it first like done in the duel option...the software code is there just a slight change has to be made... All this gibbering about "EVE is a pvp game and would change to the core if something is done against ganking(not pvp,hear what i say this is just about ganking in highsec)" is pure nonsense. The gankers disturb MY game and that's all that counts.... I don't care about THEIR game,it simply does not interest me.... And yes..this is the same gibbering THEY do every time an anti gank wall is discussed whereever.... PVE: "i want to fly safe" PVP: "That's impossible,MY game would be changed to the core" PVE: "but you can do...... PVP: "Impossible,EVE is a PVP game" PVE: "but.... PVP: "Impossible,that is MY game,go away carebear" This is how a "discussion" about this theme goes.... Change is bad..... again i understand why some would be drawn towards the idea of 100% sefety in hs. i would urge you to think one or two steps further than your own risk avertion. imagine what would happen to the market if hs would be 100% safe. If war deccs was the only way of fighting in hs what would happen then to the small time solo player? HS is damaged as it is with the level of wardecks going around. Ppl are isk fat and perpetual wardecks is a thing. if you want to strike a blow for improved security in HS start advocating for wardecks to be more expensive. If you have your way small corps will be obliterated as hs gankers turn to wardeccing and citadel hunting istead. Your only option is staying in NPC corporations or joining an existing mega corp.. and thus you kill of any chance a newbro has of stating a small corp and building it up from the ground congrats you just killed off another important funtion of HS in your persuit of life in a NPC corp without risk ... and then we have the market. the large alliances and corporation who are strong enugh to survive in the 100% gank free HS of yours would have virtual monopoly on HS minerals and good mission running stations ..
Malcorath Sacerdos Rogue Meddlers 41	Posted - 2017.02.01 12:00:00 - [3] - Quote Akaro Tripar wrote: [quote=Malcorath Sacerdos][quote=Akaro Tripar] Yes it would be another EVE...but a better for everyone.... no it would be better for the risk averce trammelites in npc corporations, for the guys who came to eve for the sandbox rpq with real lasting ingame consequenses it would be a lesser game it would be the introduction of trammel in Sosaria all over again. yes the trammelites are loyal yes they are dedicated and they are proletysing their non violence religion to as many mmorpg-¦s then can .. go try out UO (dont leve eve id want you here even if we disagree on this) you will see what i meen try out DDO ( an even lesser game then UO but then again it was made with no world pvp and no non concentual pvp in mind unlike UO) try as many mmorpgs as you can you will see that the ones you like the most (like eve) will be made with non consentual pvp in mind...
Malcorath Sacerdos Rogue Meddlers 41	Posted - 2017.02.01 13:57:36 - [4] - Quote Quote: From another perspective... Many gamers could suggest you 100-1000 multiplayer games that work exactly the way you want EvE to be (the number mainly depending on how many games they tried). On the other hand, a very knowledgable gamer maybe could list three multiplayer games where constant danger of losing much progress is a thing. A cynic who enjoys one of those three would say to you to please move to one of the other 1000 options that are exactly like you want this particular one to be. But it would be a lot nicer to suggest you to -try- enjoying that very unique setup, because you have zero~ish chance of encountering anything like this again (and if you did, you'd probably wouldn't enjoy them, as they are like EvE, just even harsher and less forgiving). this so much this. im just to polit to say HTFU and GO back to (take your pick of 100% safe MMO) old UO EvE and the other niche sandbox open pvp MMORPG-¦s out there are slowly becoming extingt. so yea your ideas are the polar oposite of what us old farts fell in love with in old style MMORPG-¦s if you want a Modern themepark safe space to goof around and to collect achievments and farm you stuff to build your dollhouse... pls go else where. i prefer a game where there is a risk i get my perfect sand caslt kicked over. where there is a reason (other then to get those shiny purplez that will be totally obsolete the next expantion) to group up form clans (corporations in eve fyi) for instance mutual protection aganst the Dewds and PK-¦s ( read pirates gankers and fully legit corps who just want your resourses) it is this dynamic that is EVE .. it is just a luck of the draw that eve isnt an avatar based fantasy MMO rpg since many of the devs where old UO players.... (cause now i have the chance to make that game moahahahaha) so yes the guy who wrote that up there is 100% correct this is not for the faint of heart this is eve and in eve the epic loot is ganker and greifer tears.... so gang up form up and make your own safety be it in HS LS NULL och WH ..
Malcorath Sacerdos Rogue Meddlers 42	Posted - 2017.02.03 08:48:08 - [5] - Quote Akaro Tripar wrote: Malcorath Sacerdos wrote: Akaro Tripar wrote: [quote=Malcorath Sacerdos][quote=Akaro Tripar] Yes it would be another EVE...but a better for everyone.... no it would be better for the risk averce trammelites in npc corporations, for the guys who came to eve for the sandbox rpq with real lasting ingame consequenses it would be a lesser game it would be the introduction of trammel in Sosaria all over again. yes the trammelites are loyal yes they are dedicated and they are proletysing their non violence religion to as many mmorpg-¦s then can .. go try out UO (dont leve eve id want you here even if we disagree on this) you will see what i meen try out DDO ( an even lesser game then UO but then again it was made with no world pvp and no non concentual pvp in mind unlike UO) try as many mmorpgs as you can you will see that the ones you like the most (like eve) will be made with non consentual pvp in mind... Another one singing the "EVE has not to be changend,because EVE is a PVP game and it has not to be changend because we did it this way for 13 years now" mantra.... Becoming a modern game? NO WAY! We are better than everyone......and don't care about a changed mmog market out there.... And beside....I (as PVP/gank player) would loose my neck of the woods.....this could not be.... i know that last part wasent aimed at me bruh im what the gankers would call a carebear for life. my fav ship is the orca i use it for everything. i live in a WH so ill let your imagination figure the rest out ;)
Malcorath Sacerdos Rogue Meddlers 42	Posted - 2017.02.07 07:18:23 - [6] - Quote Akaro Tripar wrote: If CCP does not adept to this that's it,even if you argue against it,they will go down..... Sad.... we have been hearing this argument pretty much since i started playing and likly since the game started .. history tells us that you are wrong. yes this is a neiche game. we are perfectly fine with that as long as it stay true to its purpose. CCP has a clear target customer and is catering to that. (and no its not the gankers even if they are included) so seriously get with the program or do yourself a favour and get out. wow is not for everyone and neither is EvE . and if a direct quote from the devs doesent open your eyes im gonna put you in the troll pen and stop trying to make you see my point. it is clear you dont care for anything but your own entitlement. hf fly safe and i hope to meet you in wh space (given you ever undock)

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